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chelseafc12 · rawwww Age: 15 Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 219

who likes football games, if you do which ones better pro evo or football fifa. i dont know if thats spelt right

MadHater · Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject:

Pro Evolution Soccer is better, it is more realistic than FIFA, has better graphic, more dinamic gameplay and overall it is much more intersting that FIFA.

FIFA has official licenses for most of the clubs and leagues in the Europe (and world) and that is it's advance over the PES. PES in most cases doesn't have that licenses so they have to put false names of players in their games (for example Cristiano Ronaldo is written as Christianno Ronlado and similar). It is need to be mentioned that PES has a small patch that fixes these kind of mistakes with licenses, so with installing of this patch you will solve a problem.

Personaly, I'm more fan of a FIFA because it was my first football game, and they have always had a full licenses (which was important for me, because I had a slow connection so downloading a patch for PES from the internet was a problem for me). But, I'm real and I have to admit that PES is much better in terms of almost everything. If you are in dilemma what to get, buy a Pro Evolution Soccer.

alx · Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject:

Your first paragraph is total shit.

MadHater · Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject:

alx · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

MadHater · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:04 am Post subject:

So why you disagree with that part of my message? Or it is just a matter of new members way of welcome, calling their messages crap without arguments? Btw, Montenegro is former Yugoslav country, so I guess it is nice to see domestic flag on foreign forum.

alx · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:15 am Post subject:

I felt no need to alaborate as so clearly the reverse of what you said was true.

I've played both and fifa is clearly the more realistic, with less cartoon like graphics and most importantly the real teams.

As both of them are best as mulitplayer games with your friends the cartoon element and over powered players may be preferable, but that doesn't change that it is just a tongue in cheek copy of an offical football assoc game.

MadHater · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:51 am Post subject:

To say that FIFA is more realistic is complete nonsense. Every experienced football player will tell you that in terms of reality and gameplay FIFA has nothing to do in company of PES. It can be seen even in the most basic action, as players and the ball act much more naturally than in FIFA. FIFA, to be honest, is just overhyped piece of average football simulation. However, new trailer of FIFA 2009 looks great and I hope it will be able to achieve the top point of today's football simulation games.

alx · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject:

Every experianced football player must be wrong then.

In fifa the players are over skilled at average level, in tricks and control, but that is far preferable to the stupid AI in pro evo.

And the tackling problem that comes with having attack and defence controls placed over one anouther on the controler is only exasperated by the terrible choice of having tackle and shoot as the same button.

Fifa has consistently produced a good medium for fans fantacies, of taking there team and making them into the best. I don't think you have that aspect with teams such as Man Blue.

The fake leagues take away from the expirence. Playing with a friend and taking layton Orient from div 2 to a top four finish in the prem made a great expeiance because lets face it, most normal people don't find total emersion football in a game as fake as pro evo.

Pro evo is like a weird al song, people find it funny, it sells well, but in the end its nothing without the real thing.

MadHater · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

Tamonten · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject:

Football games are the same recycled shit regardless of any other contributing factors.

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alx · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject:

So are your posts.

MadHater, Man U chose Fifa over pro evo in their training suites. Champions of europe - some kid off the internet, who has more credibilty?

Yes the AI is stupid, they act in the same way every damn time. There inability to react to situations like a two legged match is laughable.
I've watched it sit back at the end of the match, knowing that it will win, but still be down over the two games.

The game doesn't predict past the 12 min that most people play.

Your little patch would meen internet access to do it. These are both console games, so 60% PS3 and 40% 360. Firstly there are the people who can't wire up, then you have the 360 people who don't want to pay microsoft for access to xbox world.

So the patch is limited in who can have it, while Fifa comes ready made. Lets be honest, if they could get the licences for the teams and couldn't be bothered to put them on, do you expect the casual players that most of these games are bought by, to be bothered either?

Also, opponent tackling every minute, thats called 'pressing', trust me, I play the game regualy. I don't know what your leagues are like, but its pretty common over here.

MadHater · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject:

The license patch for PES is made from independent fans and their programing teams, so they have no connection to PES official studio. That is why that patch is not included in full version of PES.

You theory of not having an internet is ridiculous. Everyone who plays any of those games on net have internet connection, and couple of hundred kilobytes means nothings.

Opponent tackling every minute is called pressure in real game, not in FIFA's scripts and their AI programmed to do only two things: to tackle, and to shoot. Nice variety of options, especially compared to PES.

And your statement about Man United, you know how much the fact they choose FIFA for their training means to me? It is completely irrelevant to this discussion. All the best for them, but I don't care.

alx · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:

How does the fact your patch was made by fans change anything?

My theory is correct, its just that you and your 'friends' all play on your consoles enough to warrent it. I know that most normal people have other things to do, like playing real football.

You have clearly never seen Fifa disect a defence on world class difficulty, however pro evo's players always seem woolyheaded when it comes to playing the game. They see a pass, they make it, then you see 9 players with woefully bad possitioning while two attempt to attack.

My statement about Man United, one of the best teams in the world, is a comment on "Every experienced football player". If Man U use it as a way of making the players develop there football brains then it is clearly superior to other simulations.

MadHater · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:

My discussion about patch is answer to your statement