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alx
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| Quote: | | 1- The government would NOT be stupid enough (back then) to make the flag move with wind if they were faking a moon landing. |
Just because they did it badly doesn't mean they didn't do it.
| Quote: | | 2- It happened opn July 20th, 1969! Does it freakin matter now whether or not they faked it? Jesus christ... |
You do talk some sh*t sometimes krav |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Plus.
There was something like when the craft left the moon, the blast that the craft needed to escape the mon's gravity- although not half as much as necessart on Earth- would have still created a MUCH larger cloud of dust underneath the module.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Alx wtf? I do not speak shit. The first moon landing was in 1969 on July 20th. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Nojoy wrote: | | This thread is retarded. |
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interesting thread... i like it 
there are thousands of scientists... astronomers and physicists. i'm sure they would know whether or not it's possible to go on the moon. even if government faked it, there is no reason for every single scientists to cover up the truth and play along with the lie.
lets think of some possiblities that could happen and could have happened:
1. humans actually landed on the moon
2. govt faked it (payed people to keep it secret) and admitted it before war ended due to guilt
3. govt faked it to win war and admitted it after war, becuz there's no reason keep paying people to hide the fact
4. govt faked it, and is too arrogant to admit, so keeps on paying people to keep secret
we know that its either #1 or #4 because govt never admitted... but out of these 4 possibilities, what are the chances of #4 happening?
my belief: with today's technology, humans can walk on the moon.
| naiani wrote: | | yea truth. ive heard the romer of staging it was because they wanted to win the war but honestly i dont see how faking walking on the moon would help them win a war |
good point. after WW2, there was a war between the East (Soviet Union (Russia) - Communist) and the West (USA - NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization)) which was called the Cold War.
the Cold War actually never had any battles that caused bloodshed... it was more about their appearance and threat to the enemy. 2 technological developments took during the 45 years of the war... the Arms Race and the Space Race. both Russia and US raced each other to have the deadliest weapons and top space technlogy.
so making the russians believe that we are able to go to the moon and they cant, it can actually make them they will lose the war because US is ahead of them. eventally the Russians lost by wasting their money on the war against Afghanistan, so they had no money left to support the country and fund the space/arms race at the same time. |
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alx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| XB wrote: | [color=green][b]interesting thread... i like it
there are thousands of scientists... astronomers and physicists. i'm sure they would know whether or not it's possible to go on the moon. even if government faked it, there is no reason for every single scientists to cover up the truth and play along with the lie.
lets think of some possiblities that could happen and could have happened:
1. humans actually landed on the moon
2. govt faked it (payed people to keep it secret) and admitted it before war ended due to guilt
3. govt faked it to win war and admitted it after war, becuz there's no reason keep paying people to hide the fact
4. govt faked it, and is too arrogant to admit, so keeps on paying people to keep secret
we know that its either #1 or #4 because govt never admitted... but out of these 4 possibilities, what are the chances of #4 happening? |
You asume that all the scientists knew what was happening.
Why tell them if you really did want to get the technology to go to the moon, if they knew that they couldn't do it already they might get stressed out at any failures.
Lets remember that the soveits were leading the way up to that point because of a lack of heath and safety.
Also think about the damage that could be done if they admited that they lied, America would lose face no-one would trust them, there would be anomolys from the past jumping up everywhere and they would be the laughing stock of the world.
Also your comment about the cold war is inacurate, both sides engaged in battle just not directly. Eg the soviets suppled funded and trained the vetcong that went on to fight the Americans, the same but opposite happened in afganistan. Korea is a good example of this but the extra influence from china complecated the situation. |
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| Really though.... Right now, we have a space station thats only one year from completion that will help bridge the gap to Mars. there have been dozens of stations since 1969, does it really matter? Whats done is done. |
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| alx wrote: | You asume that all the scientists knew what was happening.
Why tell them if you really did want to get the technology to go to the moon, if they knew that they couldn't do it already they might get stressed out at any failures.
Lets remember that the soveits were leading the way up to that point because of a lack of heath and safety.
Also think about the damage that could be done if they admited that they lied, America would lose face no-one would trust them, there would be anomolys from the past jumping up everywhere and they would be the laughing stock of the world.
Also your comment about the cold war is inacurate, both sides engaged in battle just not directly. Eg the soviets suppled funded and trained the vetcong that went on to fight the Americans, the same but opposite happened in afganistan. Korea is a good example of this but the extra influence from china complecated the situation. |
1. govt may be paying people to keep secret so US doesnt lose its reputation... but why would the govt still fund for projects in space, like going to the moon or something. if they cant go to the moon, what makes them think they can go to mars?
2. the Cold War (between Russia and US) was never faught with bullets and bombs. the Korean War and Vietnam War were not battles of the Cold War... they were 2 separate wars which was related to the Cold War. |
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alx
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[quote="XB"] | alx wrote: | You asume that all the scientists knew what was happening.
Why tell them if you really did want to get the technology to go to the moon, if they knew that they couldn't do it already they might get stressed out at any failures.
Lets remember that the soveits were leading the way up to that point because of a lack of heath and safety.
Also think about the damage that could be done if they admited that they lied, America would lose face no-one would trust them, there would be anomolys from the past jumping up everywhere and they would be the laughing stock of the world.
Also your comment about the cold war is inacurate, both sides engaged in battle just not directly. Eg the soviets suppled funded and trained the vetcong that went on to fight the Americans, the same but opposite happened in afganistan. Korea is a good example of this but the extra influence from china complecated the situation. |
1. govt may be paying people to keep secret so US doesnt lose its reputation... but why would the govt still fund for projects in space, like going to the moon or something. if they cant go to the moon, what makes them think they can go to mars? | Quote: |
A month after the "first" moon landing a second shuttle left America on course for the moon. The footage from this landing is where most of the conspiracy theories come from due to the use of the same type of camera and equipment, also on this one the engine is still there.
And samples of moon and research on moon rock were only realised after the second landing.
Today the International competition in the space race in non-existent, as the resent use of a Russian space centre by American spacemen proves. With the imminent threat of global warming closing in the ability to colonise space would be a handy alternative to the entire human race dieing out due to its greed.
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2. the Cold War (between Russia and US) was never faught with bullets and bombs. the Korean War and Vietnam War were not battles of the Cold War... they were 2 separate wars which was related to the Cold War.[quote]
I think you have mistaken the nature of the cold war, this being to do the maximum damage to the opposing nation without being directly responsible and therefore avoiding the blame. The effectiveness of this tactic is evident as it seems to have fooled you a seemingly intelligent individual.
All communist nations and parties were in the direct control of Moscow (with the notable exceptions of Yugoslavia Cuba and the Japanese Red Army) there for any act of hostility towards a western nation was approved by the Kremlin.
The cold war is an allusion that stopped mass panic, most communist troops were soviet trained soviet equipped and believed in the Russian brand of communism. Like wise groups used by the usa to combat soviet troops were trained by the CIA and marines and equipped with the best weapons in the western arsenal.
In reality these pawns were practically US and USSR troops, this was hidden to prevent nuclear war but is the truth non the less
Both sides made its citizens and troops mentally ready for war by teaching a level of hatred towards the opposing ideology, the overuse of this propaganda is still noticeable today with strong anti-communist feeling in most MEDCs and a number of ex-soviet citizens still fighting for communism and active in the Russian parties.
In the Korean war there are reports of soviet military advisers taking up arms against particularly strong attacks, and as some of them went mysteriously missing from the front line they were probably being captured and interrogated, a fate in cold war times worse than death, and worth fighting till the last bullet to avoid.
The cold war was called that to carm an already panicked world. |
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alx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| And krav just because something happened some time ago doesn't necessarily make it less important. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm bored my thread now. Too many long, serious posts about this topic.
Of course we went to the moon, you prunes! |
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: . |
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| i'm pretty sure it's the truth. but it could be a lie...but, i don't see why anyone ould want to lie about such a thing other than to raise eyebrows. |
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| You don't know how much they rely on spin. |
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't they show it on the news, like how they walked on the moon? |
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