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Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?
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Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?
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No
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atelophobic wrote:
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Let's have a ban against gay marriage because our religious beliefs are against it and the entire nation must have the same religious beliefs!


He's not all to blame for that. We had a vote whether or not to allow gay marriage in Michigan. It was a big NO. So obviously, a majority don't want it either.

What right does a person have to discriminate against another person because of their religion? But then our pride for being equal and treating others equally has blinded us enough to realize how far we've fallen behind.

And no one dare start saying it wouldn't be fair to force the Church to marry homosexuals. The Church isn't forced to marry any couple that they choose not to.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, then how about EVERYONE can get married, if thats your premise. Pedophiles and little boys, animals and humans, heck, lets get groups of 4 or 5! Screw morals and ethics!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except that children and animals can't give informed consent as two consenting homosexual adults can. As for polygamy, if there is a way to confirm that all parties are consenting, then why not?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@Sara@, you really don't know much about presidents considering there are forty-two of them and you named ten or less. Throwing the whole Clinton thing shows that you read too many chain letters too.


And I don't think that all Americans does .. why we cant judge him at least in his first term 2000-2004 ?

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The difference between the people posting their views about Saddam and you creating this thread is because you're looking for people to agree with you when most don't. You did correct it to him being a bad president, but I disagree with your reasons entirely.


I don't look or need for people to agree with me .. I just transfer how 300 millions Arabic think about Bush ..Around 1 million children died during the American blockade for Iraq ..I know its Saddam's fault but US also responsible of this crime ..punish a whole people for the mistake of one is very stupid .

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Bush doesn't separates his religious views from his political views and yes, it can be done. If you can't do it, I seriously hope you never run for office as long as "Freedom of Religion" is still around (at the very least, anything matter that would go against your religious views should come up). He spends too much and I don't support his violations of human rights
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So what If he has a religious views , Bush also have ..And ofcourse no body supports s his violations of human rights its against our religion ..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blaming Bush for killing thousands of people, stealing oil, being stupid AND a dumb@ss is questionable. I would like to know how many people commenting on this thread really know what he has done, and what he hasnt.


ts very obvious that he did all that ..just watch the news.. Nobody believes that US went to Iraq to protect the Iraqi people or to check if Saddam has WMDs .


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blaming the voters...its too late for that. Do you know what gore or kerry would have done? you dont. we dont.

I know its too late .. but its dumb thing to vote again for a man who started two wars and send their suns ans daughters to hell .Maybe Kerry or Gore have a different political lists instead of solving their crises by violence and make US more hatred from other countries as Bush did ..


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Thousands are dying. yes. i have two comments on that:
1) if we pull out, hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. (people who hate the U.S. will actually attack us, i hope you know. they know how to build nukes, they will use them, and last i heard, Israel runs the risk of being wiped off the face of the earth)


Can u explain to me how would thousands be in risk If US pull out ?Saddam is dead(even though that will not make a different ) and the Iraqi people have the ability to build their country without any help..And why would u care about Israel ?These Zionists have a nuclear bombs they will destroy the entire arab world ..First they stole a part of our nation , killed and arrest thousands , occupied lands in Syria and Lebanon , they wanna expand and stole our land to achieve their dream to make the biggest Israel ..And I dont think that anybody don't wish to Israel to wiped off the face of the earth ..We all have the right to hate them ..


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2)does anyone realize how many men died in WWII? or the Great War? thousands and thousands and thousands...and yet we remained unified and supportive until the end. What is so bad about doing that now? our troops, american men and women, are over there fighting as hard as they can, for a country they believe in, an country that is dividing itself while they are away. there is nothing like troops coming home after a long time of fighting...to an unwelcoming crowd. our troops WANT to be defending the country. they are volunteers. without them...our country is wide open to anyone who wants to run us through.


There is no exuces to kill inconnet people ..Listen , I really don't understand how do u think , how would the troops defend of America ..there is no connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda its just a lie ..

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@SARA@: if bush knew about the trade center, it still takes congress to put anything into action (balance of powers, remember? Exevutive, Legislative and Judicial branches...)and who would believe...an attack on the *most powerful* country? but it happened, and it opened many peoples eyes.


I didn't make up this one ..Its all in news

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If democracy isn't the best gov. to give to the iraqi's, (im not saying it is) then what is? there has to be SOME kind of gov.


Well , the Iraqis themselves has the right to decided about that one

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I am not trying to accuse anyone or anger anyone, im stating my views. if anyone wants to get mad and yell at me, then go ahead. but honestly, i had to get that out. Im tired of hearing everyone accusing one man for the faults of many.


We respect your view and nobody will yell or mad at you at all ..
Actually the fault of one and many are payed the price of his ignorant ..Its all in his hand ..


Sorry for late reply I was busy lately ..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sara... you are WAY out of your league here. Quit while you are behind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thousands are dying. yes. i have two comments on that:
1) if we pull out, hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. (people who hate the U.S. will actually attack us, i hope you know. they know how to build nukes, they will use them, and last i heard, Israel runs the risk of being wiped off the face of the earth)

And if you stay hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. In british areas we befriend the locals, give them gifts and are genraly matey.

If your going to invade a country try not to piss almost everyone off wile your doing it.

And people who hate america wouldnt have that gruge if you just kept your noses out of what they do.

Israel does run the risk of being destroyed but thats because its tryed to steal land from all the countrys around it.

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2)does anyone realize how many men died in WWII? or the Great War? thousands and thousands and thousands...and yet we remained unified and supportive until the end. What is so bad about doing that now? our troops, american men and women, are over there fighting as hard as they can, for a country they believe in, an country that is dividing itself while they are away. there is nothing like troops coming home after a long time of fighting...to an unwelcoming crowd. our troops WANT to be defending the country. they are volunteers. without them...our country is wide open to anyone who wants to run us through


You turned up half way through both wars after you realised it was against your economic intrests, you remained unified because you were sceared of what ever enemy the propergander was demonising at the time.

Your troops are not defending your country, there attacing other peoples, and to justify what they do by saying they are defending you is stupid.

However you are right about the last point, if you ever get rid of your army you will be destroyed by the enemys you've made by using your army as a political wepon
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alx wrote:
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Thousands are dying. yes. i have two comments on that:
1) if we pull out, hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. (people who hate the U.S. will actually attack us, i hope you know. they know how to build nukes, they will use them, and last i heard, Israel runs the risk of being wiped off the face of the earth)

And if you stay hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. In british areas we befriend the locals, give them gifts and are genraly matey.

that has to be the funniest thing i've heard all day.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Socko Puppeto wrote:
alx wrote:
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Thousands are dying. yes. i have two comments on that:
1) if we pull out, hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. (people who hate the U.S. will actually attack us, i hope you know. they know how to build nukes, they will use them, and last i heard, Israel runs the risk of being wiped off the face of the earth)

And if you stay hundreds of thousands run a huge risk of dying. In british areas we befriend the locals, give them gifts and are genraly matey.

that has to be the funniest thing i've heard all day.

Yeah, the two combined really do it.
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