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if a fire explorer dies firefighting a fire should he get the same funeral etc as a firefighter
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: fire explorers Reply with quote

relize it or not fire explorers do some work. in the past ten years 2 fire explorers died firefighting a fire. no they dont do as much as firefighters but they do save lives. like when a paramedic needs help doing cpr the explorer helps when they need a pair of hands to do rehab the explorer is there. fire explorer chris kangas died responding to a call he was denied state funding for his funeral. why cause he was not a certifed firefighter but in a diffent state fire explorer Alethea Faye Nixon was given a full funeral mostly paid by the fire dept. my point is they did this to help people they risk there lives just like firefighters
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he was denied federal benefits. The state did recognize him as a fire fighter, it's the federal government that did not.

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The state never questioned Kangas’ status when it paid a mid-$90,000 benefit. Neither did the borough, when it paid the fire company benefit of $175,000, he said.

"By the state paying benefits, they are telling you right there they recognized him as a firefighter," Montella said.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok sorry for i misunderstood the article when i was reading it they should get federal to
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think they should. If they want benefits like a firefighter, they should become a firefighter.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment, they are too young to be fire fighters and they have limited duties in the sense of they can't go into the house.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but they can do exterior attacks they help with truama patients they lay the five inch when needed elps with rehab they take alot of tasks the firefighter can do so that the firefighters can go inside it dont matter how much they do the point is they died when they where riding out with the fire dept
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadeeyedgirl wrote:
I dont think they should. If they want benefits like a firefighter, they should become a firefighter.


they are to young to become a firefighter some are 14 years old
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then they aren't really firefighters. They are more like EMT's?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they do a lil bit of firefighting but they are trained to do cpr how to control bleeding so the arent emt our firefighters they do lil of both but if you joineed the program ud relize how much they do for firefighters cause iam a fire explorer myself
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't think they should get the same benefits/honors as a firefighter, though. If you do that, then you are going to get a ripple effect going, with more and more people wanting things. Should I get rewarded because I gave a guy the heimlech? Whether or not my life was in safety, I did help.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading the article helps. Fire explorers are recognized by the fire department and serves to start training people who would like to become volunteers at a younger age like 18 before they're eighteen. They get their own equipment, including a beeper so they know when a fire alarm is sent out. That article or a different one mentioned that the fire explorers are more like junior volunteers, but some junior volunteers are more experienced and better than the senior volunteers who are the regular volunteer fire department.

I think fire explorers is sort of a regional thing because I don't believe we have anything of that sort in Ohio.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fire explorers are assocated with boy scouts of america so ask them and they will tell you everything
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both girls and guys can become fire explorers, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep one of m exs is a fire explorer thats how i met her
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think it really matters
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